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met by private groups or government, voluntary action or government action. the truth is, there has to be a balance between the two. government must ask for the common good while leaving private groups free to do the work only they can do. there is a vast middle ground between the government and the individual. our families and our neighborhoods. the groups we joined and the places of worship. this is where we live our lives. this is where the needs of each are most clearly recognized and met. our communities shape our character and give our lives direction. they help make us a self-governing people. the campaign of 2012 is filled with a lot of moments i will always remember. one of my favorites is the day bob talked about. it was to meet with people in cleveland, ohio. bobble brought them together. his center for neighborhood enterprise empowers communities. ryan's story will always stay with me. when he and his wife felt called to open a homeless shelterit is not enough to give food and shelter. people needed spiritual development. people need assistance to get on with their life.

people have chosen a divided government. it is up to us to make this divided government work. we have to set aside partisan concerns. how to work together to prepare this economy to get people back on their feet? how do we get this sense of real security and upper mobility for all americans, especially those in need? they are the same. the old ways will not do. we need new thinking and renewed efforts from all americans. it is true that president obama won reelection. i congratulate him on his victory. on january 20, he will face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. you might say he will inherit these problems. bft -- [laughter] in his second term, i hope he will offer fresh ideas. failure will mean four more years. we have work to do. i'm proud of our ecampaign. i'm proud of mitt romney. serious solutions for serious reforms, we thank him for doing that. the election did not go our way. the republican party cannot make excuses. we cannot have the next four years on the sidelines. we need to apply our timeless principles to the challenges of the day. our party excels at representing

governments, spending 42% of the gdp. and we want to make any effort to stop that? or are we discussing to say it has never stopped before? >> i think the earlier social security, not fully implemented. there was no medicare. it has been pretty stable since 1980. it goes up and down with the business cycle, but it is pretty stable. this is the division between the right and left. who will continue to fight about bigger government and smaller government. we will not do it by refusing to pay for the government we have, thinking the economy in the process. that would be a good start, as a backdrop. i want to touch on your question about corporate and individual taxes. the third piece is small businesses. we work out how develop a tax code that is good for competitiveness. you need to think about how those play into it. i think one of the things to keep hearing through messages with different groups of people is, while everybody is aware that the solution is going to take sacrifices from all sides, on spending, on revenues -- the confidence you get for putting the deal in place to actually has tre

to continue to reduce demand. >> what role should the government play in the future -- your business is in transportation, too -- we are mired in conversations about the fiscal cliff. we are talking about long-term infrastructure, a long term energy plan. >> this is the perfect opportunity for the government to work together to achieve a common goal. there is plenty of times when our interest might not call last with the interest of either of the parties. this is the opportunity we have never had before. you could have consumer, business, and the government's all working together to take advantage of this huge resource. for us, it makes so much sense because it makes business sense. we get about $1.65 a quilt when natural gas. from the government point of view, everybody is talking about jobs and the fiscal cliff. everyone talks about taxes and what is going to happen with the fiscal cliff. there has been $1500 gone to increase oil prices. you can get them that tax cut today if you invested in our report. everybody talks about entitlements. high oil prices make the social security tr

emerging economy. we asked about the report the government makes for business and enterprise. it is fair to say that his answer has captured the imagination of all political parties that will respond formally in the spring. so here's what we will do now. first, government spending should be alone with the business community. we will provide new money to support the partnerships. from april 2015, the governmental elites one of the funding and get people back to work. the gross funds are having businesses get back into the game. we are going to support businesses and technologies where britain has a clear technology advantage. we will extend our global lead in aerospace and support the supply chain for advanced infection. we've also support british companies to new emerging markets in asia and africa and the americas. and increasing the funding for the uk by over 25% a year. so they can help more firms build the capacity of overseas british chambers and maintain our country's position as the number one destination in europe for foreign investment. we are launching a new 1.5 billion pounds

the infrastructure in syria in tact. by destroying the infrastructure the governance of that country we allow libya to slip into chaos. we not allow it to happen in syria. best course of action is for us to not do that sort of thing. encourage him to leave. have the russians help us. clearly we have got to maintain that country as a sovereign effective good country with governance in some form. >> we don't have enough time to go through the country. talk about the countries going to play a vital role in whether this is solved peacefully or a bad let's talk about iran. let's talk about russia and let's talk about egypt which one is the king pin in this whole mess? >> rush sharks -- russia, period for syria anyway. base where they have ships coming into. they vin influence over both countries as we know the russians have been helping the iranians. egypt not so much. egypt has its own problems. iranians we are already in their face so to speak. sanctions. issues with elm this. russia is the king pin here. they can do the most good and the most harm. frankly, now if the represents are used they will ho

court says the government is on the hook for damage it causes to land it does not own. shannon bream has more on a big decision. good evening. >> under the fifthfield the u.s. constitution the federal government can't take your property without providing just compensation. for years the state of arkansas argued the federal government did that. today, the state got a big win at the supreme court. the dispute started here at the clear water damn where the army corps of engineer conducted a system to control the flow of the black river. in the mid-1990s they began to release it to the dam. it rendered the land owned by the commission virtually us useless. the federal government argued that the floods were temporary they couldn't viewed as a taking. permanent possession of the property could trigger any liability. an attorney who filed a brief in arkansas said it boiled down to this. >> we could have the consequences saying it doesn't matter and to the side. if your property is effected, if your property is destroyed or devalued. tough luck. we have don't own you anything. >> justice is not

: the government creeps closer to the fiscal cliff with orders for the military and others to start preparing for the worst. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. the country plays the waiting game to see if country and the president take the economy off the fiscal cliff, president obama says he will not play the debt ceiling game again. but he is taking a few more shots in the public relations game. turning the screws on republicans, a little bit more. chief white house correspondent ed henry starts us off tonight. >> reporter: finally the blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president ratcheted up the lesh on john boehner. >> no one wants to have this done more than me. >> reporter: telling agencies to watch for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff and warped the business exectives the economy could take another hit if the republicans decide to extend the middle class tax cut to avoid the cliff for now. then come back with more leverage. to tie it to a hike in the debt ceiling. >> we are 23409 going play that game next year. if

, because they felt that the government might devolve into tyranny and the second thing was the founding fathers knew they had to settle this giant country and there weren't going to be laws out in the west and people didn't have guns to protect themselves from bears and any native americans that didn't like them coming on their property. so there is a history here. most people don't even understand that history. so, americans grow up with the right to protect themselves against the government and against bad people. then you enter into the modern age where you have a debate about well, what's the government's responsibility here because these are lethal weapons? and that's where you come in. all right? so you you are saying that you want a more stringent program by the authorities to make it harder to get guns? >> no, no. you are saying i'm saying that. >> bill: you are not saying that? you don't want to make it harder to get guns? >> if you ask me, i believe that there should be more comprehensive and effectsive controls on the sale of guns. >> bill: what does that mean? >> but that is

a divided government. it is up to us to make this divided government work. we have to set aside partisan concerns. how to work together to prepare this economy to get people back on their feet? how do we get this sense of real security and upper mobility for all americans, especially those in need? they are the same. the old ways will not do. we need new thinking and renewed efforts from all americans. it is true that president obama won reelection. i congratulate him on his victory. on january 20, he will face a a fiscal economy and and i mess. you might say he will inherit these problems. [laughter] [applause] he his second term, i hope t will offer fresh ideas. failure will mean for more years of -- four more years we have work to do. -- four more years. we have work to do. serious solutions for serious reforms, we thank him for doing that. [applause] the election did not go our way. the republican party cannot make excuses. we cannot have the next four years on the sidelines. we need to apply our timeless principles to the challenges of the day. our party excels at representing that

violates the due process law. quote, liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions. freedom extends upon spatial bounds. liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. the defendants are adults, and their conduct was in private and consensual, and, quote, to declare the issue as one related to the right to engage in certain sexual conduct demeans the claim the individual put forward. so could it happen? could it happen next year? that the supreme court declare it is unconstitutional to deny people of the same sex the right to marry? what a question, what a story. joining me now is the president of the human rights campaign, chad griffin, and gay rights advocate elizabeth birch. i hope i set it up as best i could. i can't write the majority opinion next year. i think i know what the majority opinion should look like. your thoughts? >> i couldn't have said it better, chris. it really is an incredible day today, that the supreme court is taking the prop 8 case, the perry case, as well as the doma

liberty protects the person from unwarranted government intrusions and freedom extends beyond spatial bounds, liberty presumes an autonomy of self-that includes freedom of thought, belief and expression. that certain intimate conduct the defendants are adults and their ability to declare the issue as one related to the right of engaging in certain sexual conduct de means the claim the claimant brought forward. what a story. joining me now, chad griffin and gay rights advocate, elizabeth bench. i hope i set it up the best i can. i can't write the majority opinion next year. your thoughts? >> i couldn't have said it better. it is an incredible day the supreme court is taking the prop 8 case as well as the doma case. when this case was filed almost four years ago, the prop 8 case, we made the case in court. in this country, we don't deny our citizens a fundamental right. the supreme court has called marriage a fundamental right no less than 14 times in this country. i'm optimistic once the court hears this doma case they will come down on freedom and libberality as they have. >> elizabet

of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe am harm our economy. >> one conservative in the senate is breaking ranks with his party over the whole idea of raising tax rates with the party. tom coburn told msnbc today he would be okay with doing what the president wants, raising taxes on the wealthy, as long as it is coupled with entitlement reform and spending cuts. the reason we're told is because he believes at this point it's better to do that to get what he and other republicans want long term, which is a fundamental overhaul of the tax code, perhaps they can get that if they give the president what he wants now. you remember, coburn was among the first republicans a couple years ago to say it was okay to raise revenue. now he appears to be the first senate republican to say he would be okay with raising rates as long as it's part of that package we described. >> a meeting or a phone call between john boehner and president obama, is that at all in the works? >> as far as we know, no. whether it's in the works, we could only hope, at this point we do n

not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves, and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> very critical of john boehner. and demint's press release aimed squarely at john boehner. $800 billion tax hike will destroy jobs, allow washington to spend more. as you all know, john boehner put an $800 billion tax hike as a center of his proposal. so john boehner got rejected from the white house, which wants another $800 billion on top of that in tax hikes and then rejected by the right wing of his own party which wants absolutely no tax hikes at all. so unlike harry reid, i actually feel genuine sympathy for john boehner. so kudos, speaker, for showing deserters or desenters who is boss. boehner stripped house members who opposed key committee assignments today. and earlier i spoke with one republican leader in the house who himself has been out of step with boehner in recent days. deputy whip congressman tom cole of oklahoma. he said the gop should agree to obama's proposal to extend bush tax rates for households that make less than

, government, and not spending enough money to keep people employed. inking money out of the system would drive off the unemployment system. ployment up the uneml rate. to become the primary reason to extend unemployment is just the compassionate thing to do. people rely on the benefits. it would be a crushing blow. they provide a crucial crutch for the economy that still needs it. host: we are taking your calls the numbers are there for you. we will still have the line for those receiving of employment insurance -- tool 2-585-383. you can give us a call on that line. i want to talk about the bureau of labor statistics on unplowed numbers that are out as a just a couple of minutes ago -- on employment numbers that are out just as a couple of minutes ago in an employment rate is down to 7.7%. mr. josh bivens, how will that play into the debate over the extension of unemployment insurance? guest: i am not sure. i am afraid we have had such low expectations that people might see this as a fantastic jobs report. i have not gone into the details. the headline number, 146,000 jobs is not fantastic. i

or the republican future. they honored jack kemp last night. marco rubio thing that limited government is the way to strengthen the middle class. and congressman paul ryan urging fellow republicans reach out to a broader group of american. >> this is essentially divide americans into our voters and their voters. to be clear. republicans plus dear need to steer far clear of that. [applause] we must speak to the aspirations of every american. i believe that we can turn on the incidence of upper mobility. it will require a bold departure from the approach government has taken over the last five decades. jenna: let's talk to rick perry. governor, what do you think about that. >> a full departure think you agree with that? >> for many years we have been working with folks on both sides of the aisle. we have been reaching out. i did 40% of the hispanic vote. it is one that i have bought during the presidential nominating process. we need to be talking about economic issues. we need to be talking about faith and family and how you strengthen those. how you strengthen an economy. i will suggest that we t

unwarranted government intrusions, freedom extends upon spatial bounds. liberty presumes an autonomy ofself that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct. the defendants are adults and their conduct was in private and consensual, and, quote, to declare the issue as one related to the right to engage in certain sexual conduct demeans the claim the individual put forward. so could it happen? could it happen next year? that the supreme court declare it is unconstitutional to deny people of the same sex the right to marry? one a question, what a story. joining me now is the president of the human rights campaign chad griffin and gay rights advocate elizabeth birch. i think i know what the majority opinion should look like. your thoughts. >> i couldn't have said it better, chris. it really is an incredible day today, that the supreme court is taking the prop 8 case, the perry case, as well as the doma case. and, you know, look, when this case was filed almost four years ago, the prop 8 case, we made the case in court that in this country we don't deny our cit

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place in government. >> including at a federal level? >> including at the federal level. that's what elections are. collective bargaining. >> house democratic leader nancy pelosi pointed out jim demint was one of the ringleaders in voting down the u.n. treaty for people with disabilities this week. >> that was one of the saddest days, so anyone who was a party to that, well, i wish them well wherever they are going and hope that we can have more of our values represented there. >> it was demint and his tea party allies who pushed the country to the brink of default back in 2011. this is what demint told abc news about republicans who tried to strike a debt deal. >> what happens if -- what happens to republicans who go along with a debt ceiling increase? if they go along with the debt ceiling increase without a balanced budget amendment and the kind of stuff you're talking about? >> i think for the most part they're gone. it would be the most toxic vote we could take. >> demint's far right ideology is a key reason nothing gets done in this congress. house speaker john boehner is curre

to keep the government on track and keep the nation from going off the rails? we'll talk about that. plus, the push for marriage equality could get a huge lift from the high court. we'll examine what's next for those who want to see same-sex marriage become the law of the land. meanwhile, in egypt, they are just trying to get a functioning government off the ground. we'll go live to cairo where along with tear gas the words in the air today are martial law. >>> first, though, some developing news from south africa where nelson mandela is in the hospital right now. the former president is undergoing medical tests. that's according to the government. these tests have been planned for some time, we're told. they are consistent with his age. he is 94 years old. a family friend not saying how long mandela will be hospital iced, but a government spokesman insists there's, quote, no cause for alarm. mandela spent some time in the hospital earlier this year. he had stomach surgery. he became a bona fide world icon after spending some 27 years in prison for fighting against apartheid. in 1994, he

options will get the revenue for the government. >> in terms of getting rid of deductions or expanding the base, there's basically three approaches to we can take. one is the overall cap. capping the total amount of deductions or capping the tax value of deductions like maya and marty feld stein have put forth and the advantage to that is politically you're not actually attacking anyone -- any one specific subsidy, you're just saying we're putting a cap on the overall system. a second way is what john podesta mentioned, we are going to change specific items but wohl change them all in the same way. you're not special, we're not picking on you, so we're going to change all deductions to 18% or something like that. the third way which is probably the perfect way from the economic approach is to deal with each of these on an individual bay sess. tax expenditures generally cover an enormous range of activities whether it's ex-cluges or deductions or credits or lower rates, etc. we call them all tax expenditures but it shouldn't hide the underlying heterogeneity. so a package that went afte

to believe a president or anyone else that later on the government is going to do this? i mean, does he think -- i mean, it's absurd. no american is going to trust that i'm here from the government and here to help you or don't worry, we're going to do this alert. >> it goes back to the basic premise i stated which i don't think the president really wants a deal. he's happy with the deal he's got, and unless the republicans. >> he has no deal. >> he does. he has the deal put in place over a year ago which is all the tax rates going back to where they are, and two big cuts, a big cut in defense and a big cut in domestic program. >> so he wants to go off the cliff. >> all right. he doesn't see it as a cliff. he sees it as a pretty good deal that they negotiated over a year ago that puts him in a position where he doesn't have to negotiate, that he can negotiate from a position of strength. >> but he has a slight other problem and that's at the end of december we're going to bump up against the debt ceiling and he wants that debt ceiling to go up. here's another thing he did which maybe you can

in dollar value from the federal government than they pay back in taxes. so we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. >> chasing ever-higher spending with ever-higher tax rates will decrease the number of makers in society and increase the number of takers. >> we do not have a nation, a majority of takers, we want to have a majority of makers. >> to hear paul ryan take it, a sizable chunk of the american people are nothing but freeloaders, mooching off the productive folks at the top. that kind of talk made him the perfect partner for mitt romney, didn't it? but wait a minute, that was the old paul ryan, we've got a new and improved paul ryan and he's singing a much different tune. last night in his first address since the republican's defeat, romney gave some veiled criticism of his former running mate's 47% remarks by offering this. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> but you didn't.

the government, but soon they could face a weapon even deadlier than any they've seen so far. cnn's pentagon correspondent barbara starr is joining us with the latest new threat on the possible use of chemical weapons. >> reporter: wolf, the challenge is for the obama administration to figure out exactly what bashar al assad is up to with his deadly arsenal. the horror remains unspeakable. 25 years ago saddam hussein unleashed one of the worst poison gas attacks in history. thousands were killed. now, in syria, u.s. concerns are growing by the hour that bashar al assad may be planning the same thing against his citizens. >> the intelligence that we have raises serious concerns that this is being considered. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence shows syria has mixed chemical compounds needed to make a deadly agent that can quickly kill thousands. >> the united states and our allies are facing the prospect of an imminent use of weapons of mass destruction in syria. and this may be the last warning we get. >> reporter: the u.s. is not precisely saying what the syrians are doing, but there are two way

unemployment rates but you have a short-term stimulus where the federal government comes in, more fema people coming in, you get a short-term boost in employment because of these disasters. the other thing that will happen with the fiscal cliff is the massive withdraw of government spending and we haven't talked about that as much as taxes. people with less money because of tax cuts going away would have less money to spend into the economy but also the federal government withdrawing federal spending from parts of the economy that are used to getting it, the military, et cetera but other sectors nonmilitary. that's the other piece that could hurt people. >> when we talk about the fiscal cliff and back and forth that is happening between the white house and the hill, i guess i'm confused because on one hand there is a sense that this is all par for the course, they know they're going to get a deal done, it's fine, everything is good and then there's also this sort of the pr blitz which is, we are very far from a deal. this is what ayman alluded to this, the speaker had a press conference a few

of all, the $700 billion in savings doesn't save the government a penny, because it takes that 7$700 billion and spends it on other people. what -- it's really important that people look. the government is twice the size it was 11 years ago, we have seen the president demand that we're going to solve 7% of this problem, but he's totally inflexible on the other 93%. it doesn't really matter what happens at the end of this year, because ultimately, the numbers and the bondholders throughout the world, will determine what we'll spend and what we won't. we can play the political game that is being played out in washington right now. or we could actually be absolutely honest with the american people, and say medicare is going bankrupt, social security bankrupt in two years, social security trust fund will be bankrupt in five years, social security total will be bankrupt in probably 16, 17 years. those are worst-case scenarios by the trustees of both those organizations. we can play that game. but the fact is, we're spending money that we don't have on things that we don't absolutely n

perceived to be democratic because they rely on the government. >> both parties tend to divide america into our voters and their voters. republicans must steer clear of that trap. we need to speak to the aspirations -- we must speak to the aspirations and anxieties of every american. i believe we can turn on the engines of upper mobility so that no one is left out from the promise of america. >> reporter: senator rubio said he thinks the promise of tomorrow is with hotel workers, landscapers and late-night january towards. senator rubio says he doesn't thing lower-income americans are looking for handouts. he thinks they are looking for jobs so they can provide for their families. >> government has a role to play and we should be sure it does its part. but it's a supporting role to help create the conditions to create prosperity. it can't substitute for a thriving free economy. >> reporter: senator rubio says the federal government could do more equipping the americans with skills for 21st century middle class jobs. martha: in california, one of the nation's largest teacher's unions is

's, and debt reduction commission had recommended that you raise tens of revenue for the federal government, you do tax reform, and you actually lower rates while you expand the base, and the reason is that if you raise rates, you injure economic expansion, if you lower them, you exhilarated, and by making deductions, you make the tax system a more fair wind. you have the lawyers who work around the rates and and they have lobbies -- >> may i say -- >> no principle involved? >> i heard the july 2011 statement argument first ramesh lemmel. -- first from rush limbaugh. i think i heard it from drudge -- >> did you see it on tape? >> i know where it comes from and you repeated quite well. rates first?h bill clinton did who changed it again, george w. bush. they thought it made sense. it tried to change the composition by making it about revenue -- you unwatched people don't understand the difference between rates and revenue. >> bring us all together, please. >> with the number of lobbyists and the super pacs morphing into lobbyists, god knows what will happen with the deductions. that will tak

should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> we do agree that 8% of the american people are getting about 80% of this tax cut shouldn't have their taxes raised. my suggestion was let's take the one area we agree and take it off the table. >> but zoraida, as you saw there from the president earlier in that bloomberg interview, he is digging in, saying there can't be a deal unless upper income americans pay more. middle-class americans should get the bush era tax cut extension. is he not backing down from that at all. the president saying in that interview that he's not being stubborn. he's not being partisan but rather that it's, quote, a matter of math. >> we've been talking now for a while that americans blame republicans if a deal doesn't go through. new polling shows americans are pessimistic a deal will be reached at all. break down those numbers for us. >> the tune that we're seeing now from not only the white house but also members up on capitol hill where they on

to a hospital and he was pronounced dead. who says no such thing as a free lunch? is the federal government giving new york schools to 30 million dollars to help school lunches and it's supposed to help hurricane sandy and it's spent on kids. the program leaves out long island and new jersey children. clayton? >> let's talk football. >> alisyn: let's do it. >> clayton: i am. it was billed as america's game yesterday. the army-navy showdown a classic. vice-president biden gets things underway with a coin toss and navy would open up the scoring, not to be outdone, army comes right back, and the quarterback with the 11 yard up the middle keeper there. and just out to the fourth. and navy down three, they go ahead with four minutes to go. and then two minutes left and as if things weren't tight enough. army with the winning score and they hand off and navy recovers with a 17-13 win and so broken up, crying, he had to be consoled by four star general, and navy has now beaten army. and you thought that college football was over for the year. >> what a great event. i live in phillies and friday ni

, it is no answer to express compassion for them or create more government programs that offer promise and don't perform . we must come together and advance new strategies. our complicated and uncertain tax code is hindering the jobs. you can't open a business if your tax rate is too high or uncertain. i personally oppose the president's plan to raise taxes. [applause] listen, this is not about a pledge. it is not about protecting millionaires and billionaires. for me it is the fact that tax increases he wants would fail to make a small dent in the debt but it would hurt the middle class business and people who work for them. >> gretchen: this is what the campaign was about . people are sick i and tired of hearing the same talking points . people want to see actual tax reform. get the job done and the kick the can down the road is what we have done for the last four years. will president obama be a different president now he's reelected and will he be concerned about his legacy and take hold and lead discussions on the bigger issues. it upon didn't seem like it is happening in this interview.

wanted to kill in the first place. about "the heavy hand of government". i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really. really! that you're gonna lay people off because now the government's going to help you fund your health care. really? i wanna be able to have those conversations. not just to be confrontational, but to understand what the other side is saying. and you know, i'd like to arm our viewers with the ability to argue with their conservative uncle joe over the dinner table. [ music ] >> chatting with you live at current.com/bill presscurrent.com/billpress this is "the bill press show" live on your radio and current tv sglfrnings all right. thirty-three minutes after the hour, wednesday moving right along on the "full-court press." taking your calls on the opportunity i will have tonight. say a quick hello to the leader of the free world on your behalf. what's a quick message you think you want -- you would like me to pass along on your behalf? we will get right back to your calls and your e-mails and your twitter comments? just a se

by the government. a lot of people calling it lame and other people ducking. it's big news and a serious conflict in the state of michigan. and one wedding, 2 kids, 43 bottles of olay total effects and many birthdays later, still looks amazing. thanks to the trusted performance of olay. or treat gas with these after you get it. now that's like sunblock before or sun burn cream later. oh, somebody out there's saying, now i get it! take beano before and there'll be no gas. >>> still ahead, red lobster, olive garden, and the affordable care act. the trifecta america has been waiting for and it includes breadsticks. >>> there was a group of protesters who we are told by the state police rushed to police officers trying to get into this senate chamber. at that point, the police officers took out chemical spray, pepper spray, sprayed them, and eight people ended up, eight protesters ended up being arrested. and so now there are state police officers out in front of the state chambers, it's similar in front of the house chambers, as they begin to take up this bill. >> that was what democracy looked like

predicted at this stage four years ago to the day, which is the rise of a pop list anti-government spending wing of the country and of the electorate. not anti-tax, anti-government spending. the tea party. you did get new voices talking in a different way. rand paul is not talking in the same way that a rick santorum or a newt gingrich has talked about. marco rubio doesn't talk. mike lee, there's a lot of different people who talk differently here. one question, chris christie is another. this class of 2010. that is an interesting wing. it's unclear whether that wing, if it is indeed a coherent wing, will now lead the discussion of the republican party. i think mitt romney, the analog to him is john kerry. he was a presentable, i think the other guys might not hate him type of former massachusetts -- >> went back into the senate afterward. >> the moment that he disappeared, that's the last you heard about john kerry from any democrat. he was like, enough, we're not going to do that again. there's a lot of republicans saying enough, we're not going do that again. the question is okay, what a

, and unfortunately for republicans they vote for bigger government, and an expanded state. >> you're not reading the same polls i am. >> i see all the polls, geraldo, every one of them. >> that was the number one -- >> nothing to do with it -- >> -- stopping block for people crossing the aisle to vote republican. >> if we passed the dream act, geraldo, would you have voted for romney? >> yes, as a matter of fact i endorsed romney -- >> oh, come on. >> you asked me, i'm telling you. i endorsed romney-ripe but because of immigration i was voting for obama-biden, because of immigration. >> you are unique in that respect. most people, most latinos didn't when they tell pollsters why they vote, they i'm voting because of the economy, because of jobs. all of the same reasons that everybody else gives. immigration is down by four or five. >> i got you. here's diana. you're from columbia, how old are you. >> 15. >> how old when you came here. >> eight years old. >> would you have this child deported now? >> no. i wouldn't do anything about it. it's not my responsibility. her parents made a decision. th

, bill. i say let's get out the government grilled cheese. let's go live in our cardboard boxes and go over the cliff. i am so sick of these spoiled rich people! they're a bunch of spoiled rotten babies! i'm cooking up the government grilled cheese. we're going over the cliff! >> buckle up, here we go! >> bill: buckle up, here we go. i'm with you joey. that's the best strategy. sometimes, as i said to the president last night on your behalf hold the line! hang tough! stick to your principles. this time we got them! two years ago, it was a different scenario. two years ago i wish he hadn't done it but i understand why. the president felt that he had to cave in. not this time! mr. president, as i told him last night hold the line! when we come back, karl rove and dick morris, are you going to miss them? michael calderone from "huffington post" will tell us what that's all about. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." the world that leave no shortage for exciting conversations. i want our viewer to understan

for the wealthiest americans along side detailed measurable up front reforms on other government programs, so that together -- >> such as? >> again, in medicare, in health programs. other programs, we've still laid out $600 billion. a couple of examples, but can you look at the details. we propose to reform and limit farm subsidies, which can save a significant amount of money, and in health care we proposed things, like, for example, raising premiums modestly for higher -- we propose to get the government much smarter in how it purchases medicine. those are just three examples, but there's $600 billion of detailed policy in that program which alongside the trillion we did together that's already in place and the savings we get from winding down these wars is a substantial package. >> you have a $16 trillion debt, and you did $1 trillion of it, and that was in order to get your debt ceiling raised. how does that count -- >> it counts because it reduces the deficit. we're here trying to reduce the long-term deficit. >> they want new ones, the republicans? >> again, we're prepared to do these o

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on morsi to resign saying his government lost legitimacy. opponents are angry at his degree two weeks ago where he granted himself sweeping new powers, and they don't trust a new draft constitution backed by him. in a televised speech last night, morsi defended his actions. ian lee is live in cairo this morning. what is happening now? >> right now we're watching protesters slowly filing in to tahrir square. we expect massive demonstration today as all political forces that are opposing president mohammed morsi have called for demonstrations against the constitutional declaration and the draft constitution. continuation of the large protests that have gripped this country. >> ian, president obama actually called president morsi. what was that conversation like? what was said? >> president obama wants president morsi to open up for dialogue with opposition and to come out with some sort of agreement that both parties can move forward to. president morsi did offer to have dialogue tomorrow with opposition forces, but that the invitation was a bit vague on who he was going to invite. oppositi

clashes in cairo. thousands of supporters are pushing these anti-government protesters from the palace grounds and the president's opponents are pushing back. you have two sides, they have been throwing rocks, fireworks, molotov cocktails here and this whole melee against one another. the opposition, you know, firing back as well, trying to gain ground. egypt's health ministry says two protesters have been killed. cnn's reza sayah is live for us in cairo. but i want to begin here with the reports of these masked men setting fire to the muslim brotherhood offices in eastern egypt. what do you know about that? >> well, we just got that word in a few minutes ago as well. this is an office of the muslim brotherhood, their political wing, the freedom and justice party attacked by masked men who apparently torched the place. this is another sign that this conflict is escalating, and more tense scenes tonight outside the presidential palace. we have seen a lot of tense nights over the past week and a half, but without question this was the ugliest night. this was the first night where we saw

. these are guys who went to congress not to limit government but to stop it. so what are you going to do? we've got five democrats, five republicans who range from dick durbin of illinois, great progressive democrat, and coburn of oklahoma, a progressive conservative, and five dems, five republicans, one independent, that's a super majority. and for god's sake, the reason we were so successful is we effectively pissed off everybody in america. >> congratulations, sir. kudos. kudos to you. >> good morning. it's thursday, december 6th. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set, msnbc political analyst, former democratic congressman, harold ford jr. >> mr. professor. >> good morning. >> professor. >> and we have former treasury official and "morning joe" economic analyst, steve rattner. >> financier. >> rattner is here. i like -- and we have to go back to that. it's the truth. >> it is! >> money is money. >> in washington, msnbc and "time" senior political analyst, mark halperin. >> we saw him on the streets of d.c. yesterday, and he was very cagey. >> the mean streets of d.c. >> yes. he was so

this financial crisis. they took one of the biggest government bailouts at the time. this is really part of the process of getting citigroup back on its feet. citigroup shares are back up before the open. a lot of financial companies start looking at their book this is time of year. it's not surprising to see some layoffs. but big news here on citigroup. >> maribel abel reporting live from the new york stock exchange. >>> president hillary clinton? i say that because the majority of new yorkers want to hear that in four years. three-quarters of those asked have a favorable view of the secretary of state, who was once a senator from new york. former first lady said that running for political office is not in her future. >>> a big win for netflix. internet movie provider inks a deal to become the exclusive television provider for disney's new releases, including titles from studios like pixar and marvel. the deal could cost netflix $300 million a year. the deal won't send films your way until 2016. >>> and days of rain across the west coast are taking a toll in western washington state. th

, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes, but not in any way that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 9 % of americans -- 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. >> house speaker john boehner is not ready to make a deal, but some members of his caucus think it's time to start talking about getting past the tax debate. oklahoma republican tom coles is one and joins me now. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> is there a way to move the tax debate forward to start talking about the spending cuts you want to see locked in? isn't the tax debate now blocking progress towards the larger issue which is getting -- attacking the deficit with real spending cuts? >> i think there is, but let me make very apparent i think the speaker is right. i think the proposal he's put on the table is a great

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